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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #60 on: October 10, 2013, 07:26:19 PM »

Paul, the details of the site and hosting have been pm'd.   :thumbup:
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2013, 07:48:24 PM »

Thanks Buddy.  Just got it. 
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2013, 08:50:38 PM »

there will always need to be funds available for the events that require a fee to keep someone from personally having to spend their money.  Example: Mr. Pres. decides to reserve spot A for $500. tells everyone it will be $20 per person to attend. 15 people total show up. do the math=$300. does this mean that Mr. Pres. shells out the other $200. I have been heavily involved with these events for the last 4 years. i can tell you with certainty that this situation has and will come up again. you will always need funds available or somebody is going to get stuck with a big bill. this is one reason why the funds are almost gone, when the cost stays the same for the events but participation drops off you have nothing in the end. putting these things on is not cheap and it takes a lot from those involved, both time and money. I do wish the new Pres. and BOD good luck.

I'm just putting this out there for those involved to think about. 

Totally agree, Jeremy. Most people here will piss and moan about "where did the money go?", which to me, is pretty cheap. I've known all four of the Presidents, (RD, Brock, Randy, and now Paul, let me know if I forgot anyone), and every one of them has impressed me as straight up guys, who wouldn't think of pissing away the group's money. Yet, the conversations always center around needing to know where your damn $10 went to. I'd be pissed if I was one of those guys, and had my honesty called into question.

And if you don't want dues, be prepared to keep that begging plate out, and listening to the same old, "How much is it?" and "I'll get right to it, it must have slipped my mind..." AppleSauce that always comes up when it's time to pony up some cash.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2013, 09:41:26 PM »

Perhaps it's not where did the $10 go, but where did the collective sum go.  I don't know the history, but trying to understand what all is going on.  I've not really been around until recently so I have no skin on either side.

Transparency, however, often solves the issue. 

I think people who donate have a right to know how the money is spent and whether it was done so efficiently.  I don't see that as a slam to any board member's integrity or honesty.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2013, 04:11:53 AM »

there will always need to be funds available for the events that require a fee to keep someone from personally having to spend their money.  Example: Mr. Pres. decides to reserve spot A for $500. tells everyone it will be $20 per person to attend. 15 people total show up. do the math=$300. does this mean that Mr. Pres. shells out the other $200. I have been heavily involved with these events for the last 4 years. i can tell you with certainty that this situation has and will come up again. you will always need funds available or somebody is going to get stuck with a big bill. this is one reason why the funds are almost gone, when the cost stays the same for the events but participation drops off you have nothing in the end. putting these things on is not cheap and it takes a lot from those involved, both time and money. I do wish the new Pres. and BOD good luck.

I'm just putting this out there for those involved to think about. 

Totally agree, Jeremy. Most people here will piss and moan about "where did the money go?", which to me, is pretty cheap. I've known all four of the Presidents, (RD, Brock, Randy, and now Paul, let me know if I forgot anyone), and every one of them has impressed me as straight up guys, who wouldn't think of pissing away the group's money. Yet, the conversations always center around needing to know where your damn $10 went to. I'd be pissed if I was one of those guys, and had my honesty called into question.

And if you don't want dues, be prepared to keep that begging plate out, and listening to the same old, "How much is it?" and "I'll get right to it, it must have slipped my mind..." AppleSauce that always comes up when it's time to pony up some cash.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2013, 07:17:14 AM »

there will always need to be funds available for the events that require a fee to keep someone from personally having to spend their money.  Example: Mr. Pres. decides to reserve spot A for $500. tells everyone it will be $20 per person to attend. 15 people total show up. do the math=$300. does this mean that Mr. Pres. shells out the other $200. I have been heavily involved with these events for the last 4 years. i can tell you with certainty that this situation has and will come up again. you will always need funds available or somebody is going to get stuck with a big bill. this is one reason why the funds are almost gone, when the cost stays the same for the events but participation drops off you have nothing in the end. putting these things on is not cheap and it takes a lot from those involved, both time and money. I do wish the new Pres. and BOD good luck.

I'm just putting this out there for those involved to think about. 

Totally agree, Jeremy. Most people here will piss and moan about "where did the money go?", which to me, is pretty cheap. I've known all four of the Presidents, (RD, Brock, Randy, and now Paul, let me know if I forgot anyone), and every one of them has impressed me as straight up guys, who wouldn't think of pissing away the group's money. Yet, the conversations always center around needing to know where your damn $10 went to. I'd be pissed if I was one of those guys, and had my honesty called into question.

And if you don't want dues, be prepared to keep that begging plate out, and listening to the same old, "How much is it?" and "I'll get right to it, it must have slipped my mind..." AppleSauce that always comes up when it's time to pony up some cash.
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I don’t think this thread is about where the money went or pissing and moaning; we understand that these events cost money. The reason we only had 48.00 bucks (doing much better now) is as stated by so many, participation has dropped, and therefore cost of the event goes in the minus section.
I look at it as, this is where we are, how do we get more participation for these events.
Post the cost to member’s only section on the place we select, and if we make it great, if not we can always be a riding group without events.
Events are great and I have had some great times at our events, but the real goal is to have a board where rides can be set up and information can be exchanged.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2013, 08:34:12 AM »

And you can do that as a Meetup group, Gumbo, for a lot less money.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2013, 09:38:02 AM »

When we renew this site for hosting in 2014, the cost for meetup will be double what we'll renew with.  The domain name doesn't expire until 2016 and for 5 years, it was a minimal cost.  We also get unlimited storage and bandwidth here.

For the amount of backend items that we get on this site, we won't find anything cheaper that offers near as much.  Our past hosting renewals have been a bit more than meetup, but that's changing considerably next time.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2013, 09:42:27 AM »

Btw, thanks for the props Jeff.   :c
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2013, 11:40:26 AM »

Thanks for the update, Brock. Last time I heard, the hosting was around $400/year; that was the number I was thinking of.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2013, 01:11:03 PM »

Thanks for the update, Brock. Last time I heard, the hosting was around $400/year; that was the number I was thinking of.

It's less than that and from the donations recieved we'll be covered for a good while.  I need to count those figures but will be posting it soon. 
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2013, 09:37:48 PM »

When we renew this site for hosting in 2014, the cost for meetup will be double what we'll renew with.  The domain name doesn't expire until 2016 and for 5 years, it was a minimal cost.  We also get unlimited storage and bandwidth here.

For the amount of backend items that we get on this site, we won't find anything cheaper that offers near as much.  Our past hosting renewals have been a bit more than meetup, but that's changing considerably next time.

Being that I dab a little in website building and hosting I agree with Brock............they are not cheap and if we get unlimited anything then that is better and worth the extra cost.
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2013, 02:28:43 PM »

So, I repeat the question...who is the new board?
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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #73 on: October 13, 2013, 03:01:55 PM »

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Re: Operating Budget
« Reply #74 on: October 13, 2013, 05:47:07 PM »

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