The kill switch was my issue.
Quote from: beaux43 on January 17, 2012, 10:40:26 AMThe kill switch was my issue. So it effected the cranking? Mine cranks then stops, then starts cranking again wiithout releasing the starter button.
I know you just had the top end redone, could it be slightly out of time and not allowing the decompresser to function properly? the video you showed me is exacly what happens to my friends Harley when he forgets to engage the decompressors on start up.
Everytime I see this post, I think "Push it down to Johnny Cheese's and fix it."
Paul, yes I have gotten it started, but it hasn't given me enough confidence to do a real ride out of town. It is still doing the slow or zero crank, but has been starting within 1 - 2 seconds. Good enough for me to going on some local errand rides. Last night it made me worry again down in Austin on a sluggish crank taking a good 2 seconds of slow crank and then fired up good, better than previous to me making that video. I work everyday but Sundays, this being Super Bowel Sunday could be a problem. In the mid to late morning I am free in any case. A friend from here, David in Manor, and I were talking about getting together also, but nothing confirmed, and before realizing it's big game day. I will call him later.
Quote from: SilverStreak on February 02, 2012, 05:44:16 AMPaul, yes I have gotten it started, but it hasn't given me enough confidence to do a real ride out of town. It is still doing the slow or zero crank, but has been starting within 1 - 2 seconds. Good enough for me to going on some local errand rides. Last night it made me worry again down in Austin on a sluggish crank taking a good 2 seconds of slow crank and then fired up good, better than previous to me making that video. I work everyday but Sundays, this being Super Bowel Sunday could be a problem. In the mid to late morning I am free in any case. A friend from here, David in Manor, and I were talking about getting together also, but nothing confirmed, and before realizing it's big game day. I will call him later.Have you performed any of the tests suggested or do you just plan to leave as it is and finally ruin the starter?
I thought I relied already on my progress. When I had the meter and performing the tests from the solenoid, the bettery sideof the solenoid showed the battery had about 13 volts. When I was trying to check the starter post I had my wife push the starter button while I contacted the meter to the negative and starter post, and bam the thing started up faster than I months! It shocked me, and has been starting up since then. Within 1 to 2 seconds so I don't believe I could being damage, but still inducing confidence to ride out of town.Quote from: bluestreak on February 02, 2012, 10:34:34 AMQuote from: SilverStreak on February 02, 2012, 05:44:16 AMPaul, yes I have gotten it started, but it hasn't given me enough confidence to do a real ride out of town. It is still doing the slow or zero crank, but has been starting within 1 - 2 seconds. Good enough for me to going on some local errand rides. Last night it made me worry again down in Austin on a sluggish crank taking a good 2 seconds of slow crank and then fired up good, better than previous to me making that video. I work everyday but Sundays, this being Super Bowel Sunday could be a problem. In the mid to late morning I am free in any case. A friend from here, David in Manor, and I were talking about getting together also, but nothing confirmed, and before realizing it's big game day. I will call him later.Have you performed any of the tests suggested or do you just plan to leave as it is and finally ruin the starter?
FYI, johnnycheese is an extremely competent mechanic; his talent and intuitive skills as a mechanic are the foundation for his competence at dynotuning. And he won't BS you or hand you inflated numbers on your bike when he's done, either. As far as the starter switch, it can indeed cause the problem you have described. As I stated earlier in this thread, you may want to check the contacts and the travel on the switch. As the switch wears it can sustain arc burns on the contact surfaces; the switch can also wear to the point that the contacts travel past their contact points. In effect, as you depress the starter button all the way down the switch opens and it quits cranking. As you release the button contact is reestablished and it momentarily cranks again. Those arc burns on the contacts will have the same effect as the button is depressed and released. It's an easy fix and well worth checking out. I've seen it happen more than once, and the Honda starter switch is notoriously underengineered for such a (mostly) otherwise well-engineered machine. It takes little time and effort to check, and it may well solve your problem.
Quote from: SilverStreak on January 17, 2012, 08:59:35 AMQuote from: hipshot on January 17, 2012, 08:21:58 AMJust a guess, but see if you have arc burns on the starter switch contacts.That has been my worry. Don't want to chase my tail replacing stuff that wasn't the root of the problem. With all due respect...........Stop chasing an elelctircal issue. That's not your problem. You said you had the battery checked and it checked out fine but I didn't suspect it in the first place by verture of "how" it was cranking. If it was the battery, the solinoid would drop in and out and you'd hear the tell tale clicking sound of that process which is caused by a low voltage to the solinoids starting control circuit by verture of the starter dragging the system voltage down. Solinoids, kill switches and starter buttons will not produce the slow cranking problem your bike is having.So........... Do a compression test to rule out a stuck compression release.For your sake I hope I'm wrong and I stand to be corrected.................because your not going to like to hear what it takes to fix the de-compression device.Someone stated you just had the top end done. Did they take the decompression device off the cam?
Quote from: hipshot on January 17, 2012, 08:21:58 AMJust a guess, but see if you have arc burns on the starter switch contacts.That has been my worry. Don't want to chase my tail replacing stuff that wasn't the root of the problem.
Just a guess, but see if you have arc burns on the starter switch contacts.