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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2011, 05:36:54 PM »

Take a look at the Berretta Cougar--I have one of the first Cougar 8000 models out, its a 9mm holds 8 rounds -conseals good and the main thing its shoots good. The only thing to change is the sights I'm goin to the Trijjicon. all green.   
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2011, 10:42:33 PM »

My Glock 27 conceals easily in my boot. It has more knock down power than a 9mm of the same size. And I've had zero misfeeds or malfunctions.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2011, 04:15:30 AM »

Warning! Wild E is leading the walk and ride tour at BBT. His brother in law is currently involved in a child support law suit. Turns out that bear was really my sister in law. She finally found a man she could catch.
Has any one tried those revolvers that shoot 45 & 410. I think I will try one out next time I am at the  range.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2011, 07:28:51 AM »

Warning! Wild E is leading the walk and ride tour at BBT. His brother in law is currently involved in a child support law suit. Turns out that bear was really my sister in law. She finally found a man she could catch.
Has any one tried those revolvers that shoot 45 & 410. I think I will try one out next time I am at the  range.

They are fun to shoot but are big and I don't believe I would carry one as my concealed weapon based on size and overall ballistics.  The 45LC would be the round I'd chamber is I did carry.  The .410 is a little underwhelming IMO.  I hear they are great snake guns for the ranch, etc.  The S&W adds the ability of .45acp to the mix.

Definitely shoot one, the are neat.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2011, 09:07:57 AM »

My only encounter where I was forced to use my gun while riding led me to consider such a gun. I had stopped at a deserted rest area to have a smoke when out of the weeds came a pissed off skunk. With it being in the middle of the day rabies was the second thought that went through my mind as I was screaming like a little girl and making a mad dash for the closest pick-nick table. I was packing a cheep 380 with a 1 inch barrel in a vest pocket below two layers of clothes, coat and coveralls.
By the time I got the gun out the skunk was on the seat with his front paws on the table top. There were other tables but since I finally had the gun out I stood my ground. The first shot missed. The next 4 did their duty. The first hit killed the skunk but I kept on shooting till the gun went click. With the area stinking and my man card mutilated I got on my big bad 550 Honda and hit the road. I cant say a better gun would have made much difference but I carry a better gun now.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2011, 11:10:54 AM »

My only encounter where I was forced to use my gun while riding led me to consider such a gun. I had stopped at a deserted rest area to have a smoke when out of the weeds came a pissed off skunk. With it being in the middle of the day rabies was the second thought that went through my mind as I was screaming like a little girl and making a mad dash for the closest pick-nick table. I was packing a cheep 380 with a 1 inch barrel in a vest pocket below two layers of clothes, coat and coveralls.
By the time I got the gun out the skunk was on the seat with his front paws on the table top. There were other tables but since I finally had the gun out I stood my ground. The first shot missed. The next 4 did their duty. The first hit killed the skunk but I kept on shooting till the gun went click. With the area stinking and my man card mutilated I got on my big bad 550 Honda and hit the road. I cant say a better gun would have made much difference but I carry a better gun now.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2011, 11:28:14 AM »

I live on a ranch and have encounters with the stinky things all the time. I can tell you for a fact it doesn't make any difference if you have a kill shot on the first round or following rounds,  a skunk will still spray,  so be prepared for the stink if you can.  I usually just run as far away as I can. So you all's man cards are safe with me. ::)
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2011, 12:03:27 PM »

I’m sure it’s some kind of a degenerate thing from the 70’s but I love the smell of a skunk, when I go by a fresh kill on the road, I usually pull over and just sit for about 15 minutes and off I go again.  ;D
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2011, 10:11:28 PM »

Handguns are always too large and too heavy when you're carrying them, and too small and too light when you're using them to defend yourself. Ruger has a good reputation for building reliable weapons. They aren't works of art, but they generally function well. I'd stay with a 9mm or a .40, and buy the one that feels natural in your hand and shoots well for you. There are many good choices out there. Look at the Kahr line and some of the Taurus pistols. The method you select to carry it will make the biggest difference in comfort. Ane remember, it's not what you hit them with; it's where you hit them that counts. Guys like me who insist on carrying .45s are really just compensating for small earlobes.

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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2011, 10:33:36 PM »

 This is a fine weapon but works best if you mount it on a trike
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2011, 06:07:58 AM »

Handguns are always too large and too heavy when you're carrying them, and too small and too light when you're using them to defend yourself. Ruger has a good reputation for building reliable weapons. They aren't works of art, but they generally function well. I'd stay with a 9mm or a .40, and buy the one that feels natural in your hand and shoots well for you. There are many good choices out there. Look at the Kahr line and some of the Taurus pistols. The method you select to carry it will make the biggest difference in comfort. Ane remember, it's not what you hit them with; it's where you hit them that counts. Guys like me who insist on carrying .45s are really just compensating for small earlobes.

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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2011, 06:46:07 AM »

I just let my gun license expire for the second time.  I no longer feel the need to carry since retirement because I rarely leave the house.  When I was on the road 120 miles a day for work I was never without a weapon.

I sold my PPKS because it was very heavy for me and more than once the slide ripped a chunk of meat out of my hand when I fired it.  Glad to get rid of it.  I sold my Seecamp 32 which was a big mistake.  I wish I had it back because it was very easy to hide but you need small hands for it.  I kept my Glock 33 and it's one I like.

Now, my first line of defense is to avoid places where I might get into trouble.  I guess that is "scared old people" syndrome is kicking in.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2011, 08:46:32 AM »

They are fun to shoot but are big and I don't believe I would carry one as my concealed weapon based on size and overall ballistics.  The 45LC would be the round I'd chamber is I did carry.  The .410 is a little underwhelming IMO.  I hear they are great snake guns for the ranch, etc.  The S&W adds the ability of .45acp to the mix.

Definitely shoot one, the are neat.
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2011, 10:54:49 AM »

Now, my first line of defense is to avoid places where I might get into trouble.  I guess that is "scared old people" syndrome is kicking in.

Not "scared old people" syndrome...............it's just being smart.  You've got it right Jerry.
Avoiding places that may get you in trouble is the smartest way of never having to have to use your gun on a turd.......... even though he may deserve it.  My gun will always be my last resort if I can't evade, but it will be there if/when I do need it.  Besides who really wants to shoot someone and face a court battle?  After the smoke settles, you will probably lose the "Wrongful Death Suite" that will ultimately follow your hopefully "Justified Shooting". Not to mention the approximate $100,000.00 it will take to defend yourself in court. This is a sad but true reality of our litigious society. In that regard......Never use your own "Hand Loaded Ammo" for personal defense.  Prosecuting attorneys and DA's love to use that argument against you to paint you as a "blood thirsty person looking to kill someone".

Bitching aside............Always bring enough gun.  Most reputiable gun experts shun the .380 ACP and .22 calibers for personal protection.  Small ineffective calibers like the .380 ACP and .22 demand very accurate shot placement to do any effective good at stopping the threat and that probably will not happen in the chaos of a "Life or Death" gun fight.  They also lack sufficient penetration power to breach through a car door or other obstruction and still retain enough knock down power.  As the saying goes...... "In a gun fight, there's no replacement for displacement" (caliber) provided you put the bullet on target.  Minimum threat stopping caliber and ft/lbs of energy stopping power should be a 38 Special or 9mm, both at "Plus P" power level (+P) or a larger caliber.  While I'd prefer the stopping power of a .40 S&W or .45 ACP in double action semi-auto, my minimum compromise is the 38 Special+P power ammo (Corbon).  I like a hammerless S&W Airweight in 38 Special+P with an integral Crimson Trace laser for easy concealment purposes.  Very light, dependable double action and concealable.  The biggest problem I've found with carrying on a bike is understanding you will probably have gloves on when it comes time to draw.  Finding a gun with a large enough trigger guard is hard to do.  The S&W Airwieght guard works for me.
Otherwise I use a hammerless Ruger SP101 in .357 magnum.  About the same size as the .38 Special S&W but unfortunately much heavier but there's no denying the stopping power of the .357 mag.!  It's the FBI's best "One Shot Stopper" caliber on record.  
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Re: Light carry weapon for use on the bike
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2011, 06:08:37 PM »

Something that should probably be addressed here is lining up counsel. Our part of the world is getting more and more violent, with a growing chance of being forced into a deadly force scenario. Houston is gaining a reputation as the home invasion capitol of the country. Violent armed robberies occur every day. Now, if you're one of those morons who believes that one shouldn't be permitted to defend oneself or one's family, and that if you refuse to arm yourself the crooks will all play nice, stop reading now and go back to your knitting. However, if you have armed yourself, or are considering doing so, you may have overlooked a critical part of your legal survival in the aftermath of a shooting: legal counsel. If you have an attorney you should discuss your situation and your expectations if you do get into a shooting. Will he/she come to the scene? To the police station? Will he/she represent you? What does he/she expect of you?

These are all issues that need to be addressed before the fact. If you don't have an attorney, there are a growing number of law firms which will go on retainer for firearms cases for a monthly fee, usually somewhere between ten and fifteen bucks. Many of them have specialists in firearms and self defense law, and for the money that's a hell of a deal. I won't endorse any firms here, but do some research and make sure you employ a reputable and competent firm. You don't want to bet on a crapshoot with the yellow pages at two in the morning while a bunch of big ugly homicide investigators are waiting for your statement, and you're on the verge of an emotional breakdown after some guy just almost killed you for your wallet and you shot him dead. The statement you give those detectives will be carefully scrutinized by the vultures representing the dead guy's relatives as they map out the civil suit against you, and having an attorney guide you through it will be the smartest thing you can do.
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