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[opos04]

The LCP that i carry has the cremson trace. It's a nice little weapon.

[WILD E]

My personal favorite defense gun has always been a Beretta Jetfire in .22
short! I've found over the years when hiking (hunting) I never leave
without it in my pocket. Of course we all know the first rule when hiking
in the wilderness is to use the "Buddy System." For those of you who may be
unfamiliar with this it means you NEVER hike alone, you bring a friend or
companion, even an in-law, that way if something happens there is someone
to go get help. I remember one time hiking with my brother-in-law in
northern Ontario . Out of nowhere came this huge brown bear and man was she
MAD! We must have been near one of her cubs. Any way if I had not had my
little Jetfire I am sure I would not be here today.
That's right... one shot to my brother-in-law's knee cap and I was able to
escape by just walking at a brisk pace.
That little Jetfire is one of the best pistols in my safe!

[SouthernXer]

I may (or may not) be carrying a Kimber Ultra CDP II.  No problem with comfort, built for concealed carry, and make a big hole.   

[hooter]

My personal favorite defense gun has always been a Beretta Jetfire in .22
short! I've found over the years when hiking (hunting) I never leave
without it in my pocket. Of course we all know the first rule when hiking
in the wilderness is to use the "Buddy System." For those of you who may be
unfamiliar with this it means you NEVER hike alone, you bring a friend or
companion, even an in-law, that way if something happens there is someone
to go get help. I remember one time hiking with my brother-in-law in
northern Ontario . Out of nowhere came this huge brown bear and man was she
MAD! We must have been near one of her cubs. Any way if I had not had my
little Jetfire I am sure I would not be here today.
That's right... one shot to my brother-in-law's knee cap and I was able to
escape by just walking at a brisk pace.
That little Jetfire is one of the best pistols in my safe!

If we ever meet and we're in bear country and you suggest we go walkin in the woods, remind me to say NO. Sounds like your the kind of person that would either use me for bear bait or traction while leaving the scene. Sorry to hear about your brother-in-law's passing, well I say passing cause I feel if he were still around, you wouldn't be!! 

[VTX-Dan]

Quite honestly, I love the XDs. Two things create a problem though. I wonder how difficult they are to truely keep concealed on a bike, and they are a biit out of my price range.

Depends on how you plan to carry it.
They are a little thicker than single-stack frames, but easily concealable under a vest or riding jacket.  Mine will fit in my handlebar bag.
The whole XD line has gone up in price over the past few years, but after Springfield Armory introduced the XDm line, the prices of the regular XDs went down.  You can find used ones fairly cheap.

What is your price range?

Be careful about Bersas; they are very inconsistent. It will either be a flawless weapon or a hopeless piece of junk; buying one is a crapshoot. The Ruger LCP or KelTec would be a better choice in a .380acp.

I agree on the Bersa.
You can do a web search for "fluff & buff" on the Bersa.  This free mod greatly improves function and reliability.
The downside to .380 is the cost of ammo.  For some reason, .380 ammo has gone through the roof over the past few years.

I may (or may not) be carrying a Kimber Ultra CDP II.  No problem with comfort, built for concealed carry, and make a big hole.   

Many people have had reliability issues with the ultra-compact .45ACP.
By design, the feed ramp is very steep on most of these and can cause failure to feed....especially with hollow point ammo.
Your mileage may vary, but I have had first hand experience with this.
This pistol just wasn't designed to be scrunched down to a ultra-compact size.  Full sized 1911's are typically very reliable, but not great for concealed carry for most folks.

[cybrhick]

$300-$400. I'd like to stay as close to $300 as possible.

[hipshot]

The reliability issues with the chopped 1911s arise from spring rates. The extremely short cycle of the shorter slide calls for precise spring rates, and they are more ammo-sensitive than the full-size guns. That's why Detonics went to three counterwound recoil springs on the Combat Master when they introduced it. At the time of its debut it was the smallest commercially manufactured .45 semiautomatic. I bought one back then and it has been a 100% reliable pistol. It's still carried 99% of the time as my offduty weapon, and I sometimes carry it on duty as well. It also works 100% with standard 1911 magazines, something Colt's Officer's ACP has been unable to do. The other issues with shorties have been the exaggerated barrel angles at the muzzle during cycling, necessitating the use of belled barrels in lieu of a standard barrel bushing for enhanced reliability. Standard barrel links and ramp angles have worked fine with the shorties, as long as the other issues have been properly addressed.

[Gumbo]

You all know a whole lot more about guns than I do, I have a old ruger 9mm shoots every time the trigger is pulled, not pretty, it's heavy like my woman, but I'll always keep both of them for dependability. 

[texasnightrider]

I normally carry a Smiht and Wesson Sigma in .40 It is a fully size gun but easy enough to conceal. I went to 1022 Supply in Beaumont and the guy make me a custom inside the pants for the gun. Cost $40 or less. Left him the gun for two weeks and it fits like a glove. The Sigma carries 15 rounds and at .40 cal you have plenty of power to do the job.

[SouthernXer]

I may (or may not) be carrying a Kimber Ultra CDP II.  No problem with comfort, built for concealed carry, and make a big hole.  

Many people have had reliability issues with the ultra-compact .45ACP.
By design, the feed ramp is very steep on most of these and can cause failure to feed....especially with hollow point ammo.
Your mileage may vary, but I have had first hand experience with this.
This pistol just wasn't designed to be scrunched down to a ultra-compact size.  Full sized 1911's are typically very reliable, but not great for concealed carry for most folks.
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I have read about some of the problems stated about the Compact 1911's.  With that said, I have approx. 1400 rounds down the pipe with ZERO FTF/FTE, with mostly Winchester White Box 230 gr for plinking.  Corbon and Hornady get eaten like a Fat Kid with a Twinkie.  I also own a Glock 23 and If I even thought I'd ever have an issue and not be 100% reliant on the Kimber it would be in my safe.  Personally, the Kimber is the quickest hand gun for target acquisition that I've ever had the pleasure of looking down.  Some people just aren't 1911 people.

[SouthernXer]

The bottom line is to try several, choose what fits, something you can maintain accuracy, is dependable, and is comfortable for those longer rides.  (as if your life depends on it)

If I could swing it, my Daniel Defense M4 would be mounted on the X.  Ha!

[j1mmyj4m]

Just curious, but who stickied this post?

[cybrhick]

Just curious, but who stickied this post?

Somebody's getting their a$$ beat.

[Gumbo]

Don't know what stickied means, must have been Isorg. 

[Swamp Rat]

one last thought on this issue, dont rule out a  5 shot revolver, there are many, my personal fave is a Ruger SP 101, 5 shot stainless .357 ( or 38 spec) nice and compact, simple point and click operation , dont have to worry about "is their one in the chamber", and "is the safety off," and the de-cocker up etc.  Plus the bonus of a big round, .357 does a good job through car doors