We will cease to exist as a world power and a country as long as this idiot and the super liberals are in power.They can come take my guns and thats how it will have to be take them but I swear to God they will pay a price.Some will not be going home to mommy that night but chit happens.
I agree with Niterider. Can't blame all this on Obama, although a few here would love to do so. I'm rather 'neutral' on guns, got a couple, haven't used 'em (in any fashion ) in several years.I believe purchasing a new gun requires registration, so, this piece of legislation would not require anything additional from the 'purchaser' than what is already required now,,, The proposed legislation would make the 'list' available to foreign countries,,, or am I reading this all wrong?Not really seeing this as a 'ban' on guns,,, Maybe some of us may consider this to be a 'step in that direction',,, dunno... I know some are die hard 'EVERYONE has a RIGHT to have a gun' types, eh, but I'm not one of 'em! I don't believe EVERYONE has that right. Same as everyone does not have the RIGHT to drive.Stong opinions on both sides, I'm sure.(I still remember a Gun Show I attended in Austin, back 10 or so years ago,, heh heh!Here was this HUGE bearded guy, sweatin his azz off, fast pacing the floor,,, (meth, I'm sure, don't ask me how I'd know) 3 pistols shoved in his belt, one each side and one in the back, and rifle/assult weapon in each hand!)
I agree with Niterider. Can't blame all this on Obama, although a few here would love to do so. I'm rather 'neutral' on guns, got a couple, haven't used 'em (in any fashion ) in several years.I believe purchasing a new gun requires registration, so, this piece of legislation would not require anything additional from the 'purchaser' than what is already required now,,,
He might not be totally to blame but he is out to destroy this country and what it stands and if you look at his past record however slight it might be you see where he is comming from.The attendance of communist meetings with his grandfather in Hawaii and his dealings with the low lifes of this country.The travels around the world apologizing for the United States for this and for that but we are so bad guess thats why every one wants to come to this country.He is in process of destroying one of the best health care systems in the world on and on no end to this idiot and your taxes will be going higher and higher to support this and all the lazy asses that do not want to work.Now wanting to give out private records to another country that cannot get its on act together no way buddy.A few of the democrats are starting to wake up and see what he has planned and hopefully will be enough to keep this country together.
Actually, if you purchase a firearm from any "non-dealer", you do not have to do any paperwork at all.If you buy from a dealer (gun store, pawn shop, ect.) you have to fill out a form 4473. All that the dealer does at that point is call into the ATF and make sure you do not have any felonies and is legal to own a gun. We write, if it has it, the serial number on the 4473 and store it in our files. If the ATF wants the 4473 on an individual, we must produce it. If they want the 4473 on a specific firearm, we must produce it. But when we call it in, they do not require us to give a make, model,. or serial number. All they say is "approved" or "not approved". I guess it is "technically" on file, but we have the ones we filled out in our files for audit purposes only.So in essence, you really do not have to "register" a gun in the state of Texas right now at all..
"The proposed legislation would make the 'list' available to foreign countries,,, or am I reading this all wrong?"And this is OK I'm perfectly fine with it! I have 3 guns, you are more than welcome to tell anyone, anywhere that I have 3 guns. Don't care who ya tell. And your concern with this legislation is? I really don't care if 'country X' knows how many guns I have. What may be beneficial to "country X" is to be aware of how many guns I 'turn', meaning, trade, sell, or exchange internationally I believe this legislation will have a larger impact on gun dealers than it has than your average 'joe'. Even if 'joe' has a nice collection, (as my uncle has), I do not see this 'list' in the posession of a foreign country as any threat whatsoever, unless you are trading weapons out of country in an illegal manner. Providing you don't move guns out of the country, and you don't have enough weapons to wipe out an entire nation, I doubt that country X really gives a crap about you. "I don't believe EVERYONE has that right. Same as everyone does not have the RIGHT to drive. " Are these general statements Well, I can be more specific,,, I assume everyone here believes that not everyone has or should have the right to drive,,,, OK, then Guns,,, Not everyone should have that right as well. I agree with the current gun laws regarding Felons, and would hope that all people convicted of 'agrievated' crimes, (crimes with a gun, etc) would lose the privelage.
